Interview with Corey, a Hollywood transformative coach and A-list trainer known for his work with Michael B. Jordan on the Black Panther and Creed films. He shares his personal journey from a tough upbringing in New Orleans to becoming a successful trainer, emphasizing how discipline, consistency, and mindset saved his life through fitness and bodybuilding. He explains that bodybuilding instilled sacrifice and a strong work ethic, which translated into success in life and his career.
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0:00You said that the fitness and the bodybuilding saved your life cuz discipline is the easiest thing to
0:05lose but the hardest thing to attain. You have the ability to control the outcome of your situation. You can
0:10control it. If you want to be devastated, it can be that. If you wanted to be happy, it can be that as
0:15well. It’s called choices. Welcome to Dr. Dana Show. Today we have
0:21a most amazing guest who needs no introductions. He’s been in Hollywood for over 16 years. He’s a transformative
0:27coach. She’s an A-list trainer for the stars, Black Panther, and also the three Creed films, working with Michael B.
0:33Jordan. We’re going to talk about how he transforms people not just physically in the body, but with the mind and the
0:39heart and the soul and keeps them going and they get to where they’re going to even when they want to quit a lot of
0:44times. I think this is a really huge thing. And I haven’t said his name yet, but his name is Cory Cay. He’s here on
0:49the show. An amazing show. Thanks for coming today, sir. Yeah. Glad to be here, Doc. Glad to be here. Thank you for the introduction.
0:54Um, I have been in the game for a long time. I came from Louisiana, which is really weird because a lot of you don’t
1:02see celebrities in in in Louisiana. You see football players and basketball players. And to be able to make LSU, I live right
1:09down the street. And to make it to this level of Hollywood is another level. And it took mindset and uh my upbringing,
1:16you know, very hard. I learned what work ethic really was. Talk about that a little I learned about
1:21really overcoming adversity, but not adapting, but evolving, but overcoming the the adaption and the
1:27evolution of what I wanted to be. Having faith. I grew up in a place where you couldn’t see
1:32what the next thing would be. All you saw was the hood. New Orleans, should I say. It’s pretty pretty rough. I’m built
1:38through hard work, adversity, and overcoming anything. And that’s why I’m able to do the things that I do and
1:43train the people who I’ve trained. Because the people who I’ve trained, I can say it’s a career builder. when they came to me, they were normal actors. Now
1:50they’re superstars because of something I had inside of me that I instilled into them to become who they are. So Michael B. Jordan wasn’t any big star
1:58at the time. He wasn’t a star, but he had just had a movie that got he he had been acting for a very long time, but he hadn’t got to
2:04that peak yet. So he had to find that one thing that he was going to be able to do to take his his uh body his career
2:10to the next level, and that was through physical transformation. And that was that was Creed. Creed one. One. Okay.
2:15Yeah. which it was an amazing movie because Creed 3 that I was looking at that and you put on like 15 20 pounds of
2:21muscle in like what eight weeks or something like that. That was like a year. Every time we would train he would he would have the
2:26weight on and then he would take it off and then we would put it back on. We would go back and forth. So by create three his body started to actually like
2:32create the size and the shape that we wanted to have filled out so that he can you know grace the the screen with his
2:37presence. Something you said was very interesting and it really hit hit home to me is that you said that the fitness
2:42and the bodybuilding saved your life. Is that a true statement? Absolutely. It wasn’t because of
2:48anything with health. It was because it gave me discipline. It gave me
2:53consistency. It made me understand the value of time.
2:58Reason I say that is because when I started working out, it took me six years to do what I did in 8 weeks.
3:05Explain that. I was working out, trying everything. I was a mailman. I even turned my mailman job into a fitness
3:11job. Like I would run the route and everything, which I would tell any mailman, do not run the routes. They would just give you more
3:16summer time in New Orleans, they would give you more mail. You would not get home early. Take your time. So from the time when I started working out
3:23for those six years, I was trying to figure it out. I was boxing, I was doing this, I was running, I was doing everything, but nothing I was athlete,
3:28but nothing would actually get me where I wanted to be at until I did my first bodybuilding show. And in bodybuilding,
3:34my my my life changed because I transformed myself in eight weeks by just repetition, by consistency, by
3:42discipline, by sacrifice. The found the foundation of what bodybuilding is built on. You can’t have a body that’s worth
3:48building if you don’t have consistency, sacrifice, and worth that ethic. You can’t have it.
3:54It will not happen. Discipline is one thing that everyone can have. It’s a choice. It’s a personal choice, but
4:00everyone doesn’t use it. Discipline is personal. That’s the word that people don’t that people forget about. Discipline.
4:05Is this the hardest thing you teach the people you’re working with? Absolutely. Discipline is personal. And you got to ask yourself, how bad do you want it? If you want it bad enough,
4:11you’re going to apply the discipline to it to get what you need to get. Are there certain things you can do that help you have more discipline or is it
4:17all coming from the mind? It all come from the mind. Okay? Cuz that’s the easiest thing to lose, but the hardest thing to attain.
4:23Why? Because it takes a lot of sacrifice. It takes you have to do that thing over and over and over again. So I
4:28tell you a story. Last month of June, which one of the mental most mental challenging months I’ve had in a long
4:34time, I injured myself three times in in June. I fell off my bike cycling, which is one of the most happiest things that
4:40I do. I fell off my bike three times. I went into depression. When I go into depression, I want to eat whatever. I want to lay down and sleep.
4:45I want to be hard on myself. But sooner or later, I had to stop. And it took the discipline to stop to say, “Hold up. Look around you. You got a
4:54nice house. You got nice cars. You have a job. You make money. you’re healthy.
4:59This is only a setback. That’s all it is. I had to learn how to be happy with what I had in front of me, what was
5:06going on, and not be down on myself because it wasn’t my usual because life
5:11always changes. Things happen. That’s where that mental strength comes in. This too shall pass.
5:16This too shall pass. You have to understand when you’re in it, you have to know it. It’s very difficult sometimes. Anytime something hard is going on,
5:22something greater is about to happen. You think about a seed that’s planted in the soil. That seed is in that soil. mind in this business, but it’s about to
5:28become something greater by becoming a really big tree that’s going to give shade and give nourishments to the world. We don’t know what it’s going to
5:35be, but that little seed is going through all that soil was going through the most toxic things it could go through to become out and be a beautiful
5:40tree. That’s what it is. Anytime that you’re about to reach the next level of your life, you’re going to go through some type of adversity. But are you
5:46ready for that next level by getting over that adversity? You don’t have to tell me I can get that 100%.
5:51And that’s the things that I instill into my clients. What you go through right here, right now is not just about
5:58right here and right now is going to benefit you later. You see, the results don’t come today. The results come
6:04tomorrow. The work you put in today will not benefit you today or make you better for tomorrow. Always I say plan for the
6:11future. Your results is your 401k. If you put enough time in and you do it
6:16right, you going to have a really nice 401k. That’s the big thing. You have to put in time now to get the greater one for
6:23later. And that’s how I think about what I have. And I realized growing up how I did, what I’ve been doing
6:30got me where I’m at. Another situation happened because acting goes it goes up
6:36and down me because I’m beginning stage, but I’m doing much better than a lot of people did when they started. My cousin
6:41called me one day. She said, “Corey, I want you to um I want you to go read a scripture.” And the scripture was about to say, “The first will be last and the
6:48last will be first.” She said, she said, “I really hope that you’re acting and doing what you’re supposed to be doing
6:54because people need to hear your story, especially coming from where you come from and being able to face that
6:59adversity and come out because it’s unusual.” Right? See, the thing is this. She said, “You
7:04were born when your mom died at four years old. You were in homes where people they
7:09didn’t want you, but they kept you.” So she said, she said, “You had to act all the time.” She said, “You’ve been acting your whole life. You had to act a certain kind of way so people can keep
7:15you.” She said, “So ever don’t think that you haven’t been doing the work. you’ve been doing the work the entire time. And when I thought about that, it kind
7:22of brought tears to my eyes and I say, look at what God did. He brought me through these things. He brought me through ups and downs. He brought me
7:28through adversity because he had something greater for me later, which later is now. So only imagine where life is about to go at next.
7:34But you had to get through that and you had to realize there’s something later because if you don’t, you’re in order to get to the sunshine, you got to go through the storm.
7:40A rainbow don’t just pop out the out the blue. It don’t just come out. Something has to happen for that thing to happen.
7:46You know what I’m saying? That’s the mental mindset and the mental pedigree I have. And the thing is this. I’m a
7:52picture of health and also mental strength. But I have my weak moments. You know why I like And I like my weak
7:57moments. You know why? Cuz I want to see how strong I really am. What are they? Does it have anything to do with food? Of course.
8:02What food do you like? What’s your I love McDonald’s, man. Okay. Man, I’m I’m a big I’m a Big Mac. Big
8:08Mac. Somebody from Big Mac looking. Listen from McDonald’s talk to me. I love Big Macs. We got to cut that part out of the tape.
8:16No, but you know, I I believe in, you know, every now and then I have a cheat meal. I don’t eat healthy cheat meals. I don’t care what platform they have me
8:21on. I would never be that person. I don’t eat health I eat I eat cheat meals cuz it’s a cheat meal. My body deserves
8:26a little bit of something, but I don’t live in it. I don’t live in it because I’m not going to ever be the person that’s going to destroy my body by
8:34eating certain type of foods that can hurt me. I can’t. My temp is so important. And because I live this lifestyle, I really live a healthy
8:40lifestyle. I live a healthy lifestyle. Even when you’re not, I may not be looking shredded all the time. Most of the time
8:47I do, but if I’m not, I’m I’m still better than 75% of the population, but
8:52I’m a real I’m a real person. Most fitness people aren’t they act like they aren’t real people. That’s what I want to talk to you about cuz when I watch some of your podcast,
8:58it talked about how you when you train the people you’re working with, you let them in.
9:03Yeah. You’re not just like this big rock muscle guy like uh you know, and I’m already intimidated.
9:09There’s there’s no ego or anything. That’s what’s so amazing. There’s no way that I can be this a rock or be
9:16intimidated and allow you to be open enough to allow yourself to train. See, what trainers miss is the connectivity.
9:23It’s more than just about fats, proteins, and carbohydrates and your PRs. I don’t talk your first session. I
9:30don’t give a damn about your results. I mean, what you want to do, how was you? How you doing? Right?
9:35You how’s work? How’s your kids? How’s your husband? How’s your wife? You know, how’s work? I won’t talk about your
9:40personal life because I need to know what’s going on inside here. Actually, I need to know what’s going on in your subconscious.
9:46See, what we what people don’t understand is I need to get back here to fix the subconscious because the
9:51subconscious is what we is where we really dwell. But we but we we we show face on something else. Cuz see, when I
9:58could get you to connect to what’s back here in the subconscious and I could get to what you want to see to connect, then we have something. And the only way you
10:04can do that is by trusting the person that’s giving you the information. So if I’m going to lay myself down and tell you everything, of course.
10:11Yeah. It’s going to come back. You going to let me in. And that’s the goal to be able to let in. That’s the difference between you and other trainers. Done so well.
10:17That’s why that’s why it’s done so well because I’m not a robot. I’m a person. I think of as a compassionate boot camp.
10:23It is. I’m Let’s talk about it. Let’s let’s let it out. You know, that’s that’s my way of helping people is just
10:28like making people understand like my story and understand like what I’ve been through and what I’ve done and what I’ve
10:34been able to go through and be able to come out of and let them know that you could do it. And in return, they inspire
10:39me by letting me know some of them their stories and what they’ve done and how they’ve been able to improve and how they got better. And I’m just had to
10:45take the little bit that they give me, the little bit they give me, use it to use use on them to get them better. You
10:52know, I love when people open up and I we got it. I just need you to trust me.
10:57So, in order for you to trust me, I got to give you a little bit of myself. Talk a little bit about there’s massive health fads out there now. There’s I
11:03mean, as a naturopathic doctor, I get like 10 20 emails, calls every single day for different products and things
11:09like that. So, the average person because I know you you don’t just work with A-list movie stars. You help a lot of different a lot of Americans. I’m
11:15talking about somebody like 40 and 50 years old. What would you tell them right away? What are the three things they have to do to have a successful
11:21like longevity with working out and getting big like you? Number one, get get some blood work done.
11:27Okay? You need to know what’s going on the inside. You do not know what’s going on. You cannot see it. You you can’t even feel it. Sometimes something is hide
11:33behind something else. Get some blood work to find out what’s really going on. Second of all, get on a regimen. I need
11:39you to start moving. I don’t care if you walk. I don’t care if you walking, riding a bike, if you want to walk upstairs, you
11:45need to start moving because as we get to the middle age of our lives, at times we just mentally want to just shut down
11:50and just live. And that’s not the way. And I want you to I want you to either next thing is it’s actually four. I’m
11:55going give you four join a a a group class, fitness class or
12:01something like that. Uh because it’s at that late age, it gets boring. And do something fun. It don’t have to be uh
12:08strenuous. Do something really fun. And last but not least, learn about healthy choice when it comes to food.
12:15Make food your friend, not something that you just go to when you’re depressed or you just want to do it
12:20because you’re bored. learned how food can change your life and help with longevity so you can live a better and
12:26more healthier life. And if you can do those four things, one you went to a doctor to see what’s going on so the doctor can help lead you to the next
12:32place. Then you started to move. Now you now you exercising three or four times a week, maybe 30, 45 minutes a day. Now
12:39you going to you got a group class. So now you built community. So now you’re not going by yourself and have to go through that whatever. You have friends
12:44now. And last but not least, now you’re eating healthy. Now what happens now is that’s called transformation
12:50over with. Cool. And that’s what it is. Talk about the macros a little bit. So,
12:55and talk about the macros in working out and bodybuilding and getting shredded versus building muscle. How much you
13:01need of each one. It depends on the size that you what you’re trying to do. Of course, we know how like you like like a a monster
13:07as far as like basically right now because I’m doing a tri a triathlon and like I’m doing a sprint then a
13:12triathlon. I have to I eat around my workouts. I have to have my
13:17carbohydrates to get through it. I have to have my carbohydrates to repair because carbohydrates are actually good for you. That’s our body needs that
13:24fuel. If you’re burning them, they’re great and they’re good sources. Yeah. If you’re burning if you’re not burning
13:29them, then you should not be you should not be trying to use something that you cannot get rid of. Exactly. How understandable is that to
13:35the average person? I mean, they don’t they’re not in touch with their body. They haven’t cleaned up their body enough. They’re not pure enough to
13:42understand like I feel like this so I need to eat protein. I feel like this. No, if I eat that sugar, oh, it’s going to be, you know what I mean? It’s like
13:48it’s just an intuitive almost. Sometimes you’re not going to even know what your body needs until you actually
13:54get down in size, get down in body fat, cuz then you can start seeing and you
13:59think about the process of what did I actually do? What did I need? What didn’t I have so that I can have the
14:05body that I want. You won’t even Well, the fat is so much estrogen coming out of the fat for men or women that it kind
14:10of mask the symptoms and mask even kind of what you’re thinking sometimes what you need. That’s true. I did that in in in June. I
14:17won’t even I won’t I’m a real person. I got depressed. I was eating everything. I just didn’t care. I felt pregnant some
14:23days walking around like but it’s because I was eating for comfort. I was eating because I wanted I was depressed
14:29eating. And I’m okay with saying like that, you know, because I also knew how to turn it off. Some people don’t know
14:34how to get out of that. How do you get out of it? How do you deal with all that fat and all the estrogen and everything? I’m tough, but I also make people see
14:42themselves while they’re training. Cuz most people, they act like they’re okay and happy with what they have,
14:48but they’re not. And I make them see why they’re lying themselves, but it’s also looking at the
14:53man in the mirror, looking at the woman in the mirror. If you could get in the mirror and you could be okay, I’m talking about 100% okay with looking
14:59like, oh, but with looking okay or feeling okay, I can’t touch you. You’re never going to change. But nine times
15:05out of 10, you’re not okay. Nine times out of 10, you’re regretting it. Nine times out of 10, you’re upset. Nine
15:12times out of 10, you’re mad at yourself. So, and if all those things are like that, all they’re all they’re left to do
15:18is to do something subconscious. What’s going on with that? What’s making it happen? Let me tell you, they break up with the husband or
15:23they break up with the wife. So many people, you know, breakups lead to a lot of crazy stuff.
15:29Breakups lead to better bodies. That’s one. and also lead to crazy people,
15:35right? Sometimes you get both. You get a better body and a crazy knife. Because I remember you were doing one show and the guy’s running up the hill
15:41and you’re like, “Who are you doing this for?” He’s like, “My wife. Who you doing this for?” Myself.
15:46Exactly. And it was a complete shift. The thing is this, you may go into it one way, but you’re going to come out of it another.
15:51You may go into it mad at the person, but you’re going to come out of it happy with yourself. A lot of times, our why
15:57is not why we started. Our why got us to begin but it was something else why we
16:03did it. You know people got to ask what’s your why and then you start asking why not. So my why is I want to
16:09be an action star. Then I start saying I start judging myself say why not? Why aren’t you? Then
16:15you start finding finding other things to do to do it. So if you want to be these things why do you want to do it
16:20and why why aren’t you doing these things? I had a I had a talk with myself. I always had to talk to myself.
16:25I don’t answer myself cuz I’m not crazy. But I said, “All right, Cord,
16:31you want to be an actor, right?” I said, “Yeah.” He said, “Um, you work out hard, right?” I said, “Yeah.” He said, “You
16:38work out about three times a day.” I said, “Yep. You see me every day.” Is that every day?
16:43Most of the time. Yeah. I don’t It’s not overtraining. You don’t overtrain. I don’t know what that is. You’re in that good a shape. That’s
16:49amazing. I don’t know overt training. I just know I know when I’m tired, but that don’t mean nothing.
16:54I’m I’m w Yeah. that I got to test myself. So if you was mentally weak, I got to be mentally strong and do
17:00something to say, “Oh, that was just a moment.” Because if I stay in a mentally weak place, every time something happens, I’m
17:05going to go right back to that spot because it gave me comfort. I didn’t like it, but it gave me comfort. So now I got to challenge myself, go and do
17:10something that’s so hard that only two 3% of the world people can actually do. I got to test myself mentally. People
17:18need inspiration. Oh yeah. I changed my title on my Instagram from
17:24motivational speaker to voice of inspiration. Interesting. Motivation is not always available.
17:31Motivation don’t last long. Yeah. Motivate motivation lasts as long as a red light and a green light up and down.
17:37But inspiration inspiration will always be there. No matter what it’s going to be that you
17:43need to inspire. I tell I challenge every person to wake up every single day realizing you have one task to inspire
17:50one person. You’re a conduit for the life. Inspiration. Inspiration is the
17:55figured it out. It’s so good. When I when I was talking to R.J., my new client, he said, I heard I know you
18:00transform people and do that. He said, but the thing that stuck with me, he says it was your mindset. He said, I listen to the things that you say. I
18:07listen to how you live your life. You see, it’s cool to talk about the celebrities I’ve trained. They’re celebrities. Cool. Whatever.
18:13When people come to me, they look at how I live my life. I live my life as a man of honor, respect, dignity, pride.
18:19Southern general, you said, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. I live the life. You see me doing all of these things.
18:26You see me working like I’m supposed to. You see me living leading a healthy lifestyle. You don’t see me out here disrespecting people. I’m not doing
18:32anything wrong. I’m a man of God. I’m a man that live his life right. That that inspires people because we need more
18:37people like that, especially in today’s world. Especially today. Exactly. If if I’m be honest, we live in a weak
18:43men civil weak men world right now. Men are weak these days. The earth is filled with a lot of bad
18:48stuff right now. There’s pockets of really good, too. And when you find a solid man that can a
18:55stand up man, stick stay close to him. I was reading something that tes testosterone levels are at this at the
19:01all-time lowest. Yeah, I see that every day. Men are suffering from depression. It’s amazing.
19:06They’re mentally heavy mentally heavy on themselves. They’re being challenged and don’t know how to actually come out of
19:12it. We live in a weaker generation right now. Yeah. They need a role model. You’re
19:17definitely and they need we continuously need men to to inspire other men
19:24to stand up. Yeah. Be strong. And that’s that doesn’t say
19:29be courageous and crazy. Be strong. Be strong in yourself. Believe in yourself. If we believed in oursel more and stop
19:36looking at the next person comparing, you’ll see a better world. That’s cool. I like that. There’s many small things that we can
19:41do. Small mantras, small routines, small things, you know. Yeah. Talk about that cuz every people
19:46are going to watch this and they’re going to want to know, you know, what are the things I can do to start transforming my life. And we did the
19:52four things. That’s really cool. Honestly, routine is the mental emotional set though. How do people break out of depression? And and
19:58you know, oh man, you just thought about something. I was coming from the doctor when I hurt myself, but it wasn’t that
20:04bad. So, I was irritated. Your bike crash, you mean? Yeah. I I was really irritated.
20:09I went to the store to go buy something to eat, get a drink and get something, get get a little snack or something. The uh the cashier was very um forward and
20:18rude. I could be rude and I can be forward and then I’m also bigger than
20:24him, too. So, I’m going to come off very different. I always heard kill them with kindness.
20:31I was just extra kind. How you doing? You okay? You need anything? You’re doing great. Thank you so much. And what
20:36it did for me, it wasn’t to calm them down. It helped me out because I I internally switched my energy from
20:42wanting to react to being reactive to how I really wanted to be. And I was being more kind. And it literally
20:48changed in that moment. I was I got in the car. I was like, dang. I said, I can’t believe I was me being irritated.
20:54I was that nice to him. But it made me leave out the store with a smile. All it takes, kindness can get you a long way.
20:59connected to another. It was so powerful. K kind is connectivity. You need to act always. Never react to
21:05anything or else you lost it. You can have enough self-control to do that. And I was like, “Wow.” So I would
21:10tell people to be kind. That’s you already have the four what I told you living a healthy lifestyle. Be kind.
21:16Compassion optimistic being have being optimistic about everything because it’s
21:21going to be okay. And then you didn’t even care about the injury. It went away. I can’t control what’s going on in that man life. I would have
21:27been so mad at that moment that it would have stopped my momentum for me to have a good day. Blocks your flow. The lights don’t turn
21:34green anymore. They start turning red. We see this all the time. Even the computer stops working. Cuz you cultivate up to a certain level, you
21:40have a responsibility for that energy because it’s powerful. But if you get really mad at somebody with that energy,
21:46it can destroy it can really hurt them. You know, my favorite for weeks, one of my quotes, you have the ability
21:51to control the outcome of your situation. You have the ability to control the outcome of your situation.
21:56If you worked on yourself long enough, you can you whatever you want the outcome to be, you can control it. If
22:02you want to be devastated, it can be that. If you wanted to be happy, it can be that as well. It’s called choices. You have to make
22:09the choice. But always make the choice that’s going to benefit you. We have to stop making choices that’s going to benefit other people and that’s going to
22:15put us in places where we don’t feel good about what what we did or what we’re going to do. Make the best choice for yourself. If you want to be happy,
22:21make happy choices. If you want to be successful, make choices that’s going to make you successful. If you want to be
22:27pissed off, do something that’s going to make you be pissed off and you’re going to see what happens. You have that choice. You can actually do that. And
22:34that’s important. We do. We have the ability to control the outcome by situation. You just have to make the
22:40choice to make the change, to take a chance on yourself for a different situation to happen. It ain’t hard. You
22:47have to warn it bad enough. Yeah. Nothing is hard. We make it hard. the hardest thing in the world. With time,
22:55with practice, with control, it can happen. As soon as we start telling ourselves it’s hard, it becomes hard.
23:02You got to watch what you say. That’s power in the tongue. Just like me swimming. I was on myself like, “Man,
23:07it’s going to be hard. It’s going to be hard.” That first day I did it was hard. When I started saying, “Oh, I can do this. Oh, I got it. I got it.” I started
23:12swimming like a fish. Anything. When I started cycling, that first day kicked my butt.
23:19I’m a real life cyclist. cuz I race and do everything else. It ain’t hard. It’s what you make out of it. Do you find what percent less recovery
23:25do you have now than when you were like 20 and 30? How much longer I should say does it take you to recover now than it
23:31did when you’re in 20s and 30s from a really hard workout? Like it it used to take you a day now takes you two, three days or I but you know it’s funny things
23:37I work through my I work through my pain. So like but when I it takes I don’t know cuz when when I get hit hard
23:44I just got to lay down. So, I take 24 hours to recover over everything. If I
23:50have one day to recover, I’ll be okay. I’m talking about doing nothing. I would have to just like do the normal stuff. I ain’t talking about walking on the
23:56treadmill. No active recovery. Just sitting around. Just sitting around doing normal stuff. Take a ride. Do don’t exercise. Don’t do
24:02nothing. Like some people we do active recovery. You can walk. No, don’t do nothing. Like, excuse my language. Sit your ass
24:09down. There’s a I mean, I had a lot of patients who were trainers. They’re the hardest ones to treat. They are. Because a lot of times they
24:15have a pathology that they needed to stop. They’re using that energy in their exercise that they needed to heal and
24:20they don’t understand that and they don’t want to stop because I guess they think they’re going to get smaller or something’s going to happen. It’s because we move so much.
24:27They Well, I guess we do so much. I’m hard. It’s It’s hard for me to stop, too. Last night, I knew
24:32I had to get up this morning. I I I kind of took I swam yesterday morning. I was going to wait Oh, no. I trained at 5.
24:39Then I swam at 9:00 and then 9:00 p.m. in the morning. Oh, okay. And then I did some other
24:44things and I boxed last night and I was going to run again and I started feeling sick like I was getting a cold and I
24:50said, “Okay, you know what? I’m not going to go work out. My My body’s telling me, Cory, slow down. You’re getting sick. Your immune system is
24:56getting weak.” I slept eight hours last night. Woke up this morning. I didn’t feel it no more. Yeah. It’s one thing when you work out a
25:02lot. I used to work out a lot. The immune system could take you out because if you get sick, then you can’t train. You can’t And you can’t train, you depress. When you’re depressed, you eat.
25:08You eat, you’re fat. It’s it’s a whole roller coaster like that. It’s like that. Boom. So, I think about, okay, if
25:13I don’t want all of these things to happen, let me just sit down for a second and relax and I’ll be okay. And
25:18just that I relaxed. I’m here talking to you, feeling good. Look, you know, everything feels great.
25:24Something else keeps coming in my mind. I used to work out quite a bit. And they called me Big Bird in high school and I hated it. I could not gain an ounce of
25:30muscle. It was my metabolism was so fast. And so, I would eat like, you know, a 12 or 14 oz steak and that was
25:36just dinner, a baked potato filled with sour cream. And and like 3 hours later, I was eating crab cakes. I mean, I just
25:41was a machine, right? So, what do you think’s the best protein? I mean, I think it’s steak to build muscle. That’s
25:47for me all steak to build muscle. Beef can build muscle. Good clean meat. You know, you get it from the butcher box. It’s not not the
25:52adulterated stuff. I’ve learned that what has the highest protein? Lobster?
25:58Really? Not sushi? No. You eat sushi? I eat sushi, but lobster that seemed like to go right to the
26:03muscles. Instant. It’s like almost predigested. Yeah, that’s true. But sushi has, you
26:09know, other stuff with it, too. I’m a chicken and rice kind of guy. I tell people all the time, there’s chicken and
26:14rice everywhere. I don’t care where you go at in the world, there’s chicken and rice, and I’ve tried. I’ve been in Korea. I’ve been in uh in Spain and all
26:21those places. I’ve been every around the world. Everybody had chicken and rice. You can find chicken and rice everywhere. I’m okay with that. That’s
26:26going to give me the protein I need and the carbohydrates. But I love I’m also I’m O positive.
26:33So red meat for me, I’m a caveman. I tried to do the vegan and diet, I mean plant-based stuff before. got fat.
26:41You’re tired. I got fat because what happens is um from vegan. Yeah. From like plant-based. Yeah. Our
26:47body, all those wheats and all the grains and stuff like that, it makes us gain.
26:52Well, there’s a huge amount of inflammation in that stuff. The wheat’s all adulterated. I wouldn’t eat wheat ever again. Anyway, it’s funny. So, tortillas, tortilla
26:58chips, as much as I love them, it makes me feel bloated. And I love it. I I still eat it sometime, though.
27:04It’s from Roundup, you know. It’s nasty stuff. for me to get lean. When I get real lean, I’m eating steak. And steak
27:11has so many different nutrients in it. It has uh BCAAs in it. It has uh has everything. Like I love a good steak.
27:18And and really good quality meat doesn’t make you feel bloated. It comes It makes it digest easy. Now
27:24Costco has that prime beef. I’m have to go I’m going have to go get that from Costco. Listen,
27:29I know you’re a busy guy. You got a lot to do today. sounded like to me that the moment when you were in I don’t know if
27:36it was an orphanage or where you were when you’re young. I was I was with my family. You had to you had to act just to like
27:41get the people to like you. That’s kind of like your transition right there. That’s what made you the strength of your life gave you
27:48my strength came from not allowing not allowing myself to become a victim of my past. Yeah. The victim mentality is so bad.
27:55It’s so easy to for I’ve heard this before, Cory. I’m surprised you’re you as far you came as
28:00far as you have because what you went through most people look for sympathy they become weak
28:07angry and angry angry you turned your pain into your prize into your passion and
28:14now you get paid for it that’s awesome that’s the thing that changed I don’t have one of my friends said that one
28:20time they said brother you can’t there’s no mentors you could get there’s no there’s no books you can read there’s no none of that he said because your life
28:26is so different from everybody that I’ve ever met and you’re doing all of it at one time. I say that’s the thing I got
28:32to keep depending on myself. I trust in God. I keep God first. My
28:38favorite scripture, trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not to thy own understanding
28:43and all thy days acknowledge him and he shall direct your path. That is the one scripture that I learned when I was in
28:49church in the fraternity. We used to we used to step to that song I mean to that uh verse and I remember that and
28:54everything I did I always trusted in him that he will lead my path and all my days
29:00then you got it if you can really do that like I don’t know anybody 100% but like 95 or so it’s amazing what happens
29:07bro I don’t worry I don’t worry I I I I tried to worry one time and I feel
29:12like God was like worry he was like what you doing bro he said he said listen bro take a look back at
29:19what where you came from. You didn’t do this by yourself. This was me. You think I brought you this far
29:25for you to fail? He said, “Could you stop worrying cuz you you making my nerves bad. Just chill
29:32and you going to be all right and that’s all I do.” That’s good, man. You’re hitting my deep
29:39spots with that one. That’s so powerful. Absolutely. Absolutely. That’s what it’s about. This is who I am. I minister to
29:46people’s heart, to their mind, to their soul, and their body. You were almost a minister at one time,
29:52weren’t you? Not almost. I wasn’t almost. I was No, they wanted me to because
29:57I have a lot of ministers in my family. That’s what it was. I saw on the podcast you had all and you were kind of like in line with
30:02I told not in line, but I you know, I when I when I talk sometime, I can give a ministerial delivery, but I said, “No,
30:09I’m not about to be in in hop hooping and holling in in the pool pit, and I’m not no No, but I realized that my my my
30:18gift was to be able to use the vessel that I have in changing people’s help people change their minister out in the public more
30:24powerful. I I minister to the one thing that people need every day and that’s their body and their life and their mind. If I
30:29can help you to change that, the one thing that you have to use every single day. You cannot go through life without using your body. I don’t care if you’re
30:36handicapped. If you’re blind, you can still hear. If you can hear, but you can’t see. If you’re if you’re
30:42incapacitated in the bed, you still can hear. You still can see and you still can taste. If I can change this right
30:47here, I can change your life. And that’s it.
30:53Any last words? Thank you for having me. I hope that this touch I hope this I hope this touches and
30:59changes someone if it’s just one. You’re strong. We don’t see people like you very often. Thank you for what
31:05you’re doing. Thank you. Keep up the good work. Thank you, D. Thank you.
